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Date: 2006-11-06 12:20:08 Topic: Suddam's sentenced



what do you guys think?


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Date: 2006-11-06 12:43:27 Topic: Re: Suddam's sentenced




what do you guys think?


I think we should wait until he's actually convicted of something.

Also, if Saddams lawyers prove that he is the President of Iraq, leader, dictator.. whatever. It proves that he was illegally deposed from his position by an illegal invasion of his country by the US of A. He gets head of state immunity if this is true in the same way Bush isn't responsible for people dieing at abu girab, gitmo, or all over Iraq.

Get the picture?



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Date: 2006-11-06 13:37:59 Topic: Re: Suddam's sentenced





what do you guys think?


I think we should wait until he's actually convicted of something.

Also, if Saddams lawyers prove that he is the President of Iraq, leader, dictator.. whatever. It proves that he was illegally deposed from his position by an illegal invasion of his country by the US of A. He gets head of state immunity if this is true in the same way Bush isn't responsible for people dieing at abu girab, gitmo, or all over Iraq.

Get the picture?


Not to mire the forum down in a 15 page flame war over semantics, but technically, the first gulf war was still on.

Im a hardcore skeptic. You might see me smacking down some fundy weirdos, intelligent design proponents and religious nuts in general, and everyone always assumes that means your some sort of ultra-leftist knucklehead psuedo intellectual

Not hardly

I cant stand bush, but I sure as hell supported clinton every time he tried to stand down saddam hussein

It is of the ultimate hypocrisy that we make up these far out conspiracy theories about the gulf war, when we were only too happy to see clinton trying to end it.

The truth is the UN failed to act, for more than 10 years

In those ten years, including clinton's term what were all the euronazis saying?

"evil evil america, having sanctions and embargos against iraq so their children starve"

Lets tell the truth: those were UN sanctions that we ALL agreed to

As were the weapons inspections

So in effect, the ultra-left of the world, were giving the USA a "damned if you do, damned if you dont"

If we had the sanctions we were the bad guys (the UN sanctions)

If we continued to persecute the war we were the bad guys (the UN war)

Lets be honest about this and let the anti-globalist (ha ha the "anti globalists" talking on their global internet), "everything the USA ever does is bad" rhetoric fall by the wayside as we work to real solutions


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Date: 2006-11-06 14:52:01 Topic: Re: Suddam's sentenced




Lets be honest about this and let the anti-globalist (ha ha the "anti globalists" talking on their global internet), "everything the USA ever does is bad" rhetoric fall by the wayside as we work to real solutions



I never said everything the US is bad (if you are pulling something out of what I said), I was just using Bush and Gitmo as an example of executive power and presidential immunity.

To be honest, there are no real "real solutions" to all of this.

Also, author of this thread, his name is SAddam, not SUddam.

What I don't get is why people keep saying that there will be riots in the streets over this verdict when the majority of people in Iraq are Shiite and Saddam is Sunni. It's like saying if Nader was convicted of war crimes the US government would have to stop the Greens from wrecking manhattan. There just arn't enough to make "riots".



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Date: 2006-11-06 15:46:44 Topic: Re: Suddam's sentenced

i would like to see a video of this. id like to see a video of bush being hung too but we can't always get what we want.

and damn i miss clinton!


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Date: 2006-11-06 16:19:50 Topic: Re: Suddam's sentenced







I never said everything the US is bad (if you are pulling something out of what I said), I was just using Bush and Gitmo as an example of executive power and presidential immunity.



Yeah, I was carrying off pretty far and more talking about the general PC religion sentiment/euronazis/looney lefties/whatever the hell the Michael Moore-ons are called this week

I just say people have become SO polarized that the truth got left behind years ago

The polarization is so severe that people have abandoned the middle

The right wing is retreated into their churches, and actually considering changing the constitution!

The left has gone so whack as to blame all evils in the world on bush, hell some are so far gone theyre pushing this Loose Change, bush and the joooos blew up the WTC nonsense!

Insanity

The world has become so insanely polarized that religious whackjobs can kill innocent people at will with the full blessing of the left, as long as the religious nutjobs in question are brown skinned/hate america/hate israel


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Date: 2006-11-06 17:55:35 Topic: Re: Suddam's sentenced








I never said everything the US is bad (if you are pulling something out of what I said), I was just using Bush and Gitmo as an example of executive power and presidential immunity.



Yeah, I was carrying off pretty far and more talking about the general PC religion sentiment/euronazis/looney lefties/whatever the hell the Michael Moore-ons are called this week

I just say people have become SO polarized that the truth got left behind years ago

The polarization is so severe that people have abandoned the middle

The right wing is retreated into their churches, and actually considering changing the constitution!

The left has gone so whack as to blame all evils in the world on bush, hell some are so far gone theyre pushing this Loose Change, bush and the joooos blew up the WTC nonsense!

Insanity

The world has become so insanely polarized that religious whackjobs can kill innocent people at will with the full blessing of the left, as long as the religious nutjobs in question are brown skinned/hate america/hate israel




I don't think it has gotten that far and I doubt it ever really will. However, when it does.. I'm finding a small flat paved peice of land out in the ocean and chillin on coconuts and crab legs  :lol:



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Date: 2006-11-06 21:27:36 Topic: Re: Suddam's sentenced



I think we should wait until he's actually convicted of something.



he did get convicted, thats the point.

sorry for the title typo.


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Date: 2006-11-07 05:41:24 Topic: Re: Suddam's sentenced




I think we should wait until he's actually convicted of something.



he did get convicted, thats the point.

sorry for the title typo.


blah I'm sorry, I ment to say convicted for everything he has done, not just one isolated incident.



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Date: 2006-11-07 09:34:12 Topic: Re: Suddam's sentenced

I don't think sentencing him to death is really going to right any wrongs... Instead of hanging him, they should just make him watch the south park movie till he hangs himself.... (I heard they make him watch that movie all day every day)

Hanging him will spark up some mild violence... The countries already in near chaos... and thats just going to instigate the insurgents more... I don't know about riots in the streets, but perhaps a car bomb outside the courthouse or other political buildings... People will get killed reguardless... I don't think the insurgents will change much if they hang him or not.. they are still gonna keep blowing people up just like they were before the sentencing...

Id say it would be better to let him choose his death... give him a choice between firing squad, hanging, lethal injection, or beheading....

as for him still being president... that may very well be true because america had no real reason for invading... so the country was invaded under false pretenses... which would make the current government illegal... but I guess bush still uses that "we were doing what the un should have done" excuse...
Perhaps if bush wants to use that excuse, maybe they should let the un decide whos in charge... new government or sadam?


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