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Date: 2006-02-21 10:14:59 Topic: WTC pancake theory proved wrong w/out a doubt

Let me first say that I am making no assumptions here of any grand conspiracy involving the Illuminati trying to strike fear into us to enslave us. I'm not trying to offer any explanation, but just show everyone that the govt's theory is very very flawed. And the fact that they are not investigating to find the true cause of the WTC collapse is disturbing. That's all I'm saying with this post. So please try to keep the discussion to the collapse of the buildings, and whether or not you can still say that the govt's "pancake theory" is possible.

If the pancake theory (the govt's explanation) is true, then there would have been all kinds of friction and resistance involved in the collapse. You would expect that the buildings would fall, under these conditions, at much less than freefall speeds, but it turns out that they did not. If you would have tossed a bowling bowl off the top of each WTC as it began to collapse, the ball and the building would have been at ground level at the same time.

Again, the facts, the evidence, and what is know about the physical world contradicts the official explanation. I don't know about you, but I'm pretty sure that the laws of nature didn't suspend themselves on 9-11.


http://janedoe0911.tripod.com/BilliardBalls.html

Basically, the building came down even faster than gravity could have done alone. A controlled demolition is the only way that is possible.
Feel free to say "fires from the planes hitting the building brought it down" and stand by that explanation, but that still doesn't explain the building that came down that wasn't hit by a plane.
Of course the govt's explanation of that one is that
FEMA released a report saying debris from one of the collapsing towers traveled 355 ft, through building 6, catching building 7 on fire, thus collapsing it. It fell at 5 pm that day. Must've been one hell of a fire, that apparently no one saw.
http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/analysis/wtc7.html


I like how everyone dismisses it as "conspiracy theory garbage" but I would love for someone to explain the flaw in this. Please click the link and at least tell what you think about this. Because this is scientific fact showing that the govt's explanation is flawed, if not complete bullshit. If you still believe the govt's theory is not at least flawed, I would love to know why.




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Date: 2006-02-21 10:59:50 Topic: WTC pancake theory proved wrong w/out a doubt

this reminds me of how when news anchors talk about the bible like its fact , but then ufo stories are a joke


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Date: 2006-02-21 13:18:00 Topic: WTC pancake theory proved wrong w/out a doubt

That pancake theory is very hard to ignore... Why isn't this in the news?


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Date: 2006-02-21 13:44:27 Topic: WTC pancake theory proved wrong w/out a doubt

The govt's "pancake theory" just has not yet been questioned by enough people.

But valid arguments from legit scientists and engineers are starting to spring up, and this (as far as I know) is the best evidence that, without a doubt, proves the official govt "pancake" theory to be flawed and physically impossible.

I think that with phd's and other physics and engineering minds questioning the theory, and now totally disproving it, I hope it's just a matter of time before more people learn the truth and start asking for a better explanation than the one provided by our govt.




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Date: 2006-02-21 15:43:37 Topic: WTC pancake theory proved wrong w/out a doubt

I showed this to my boss, and he's an electrical engineer, but still has a good mechanical engineering background... and he's absolutly stunned people havn't noticed that and made a big deal out of it... He said he knew since day 1 that a plane couldn't have taken that building down the way it did.


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Date: 2006-02-22 04:50:24 Topic: WTC pancake theory proved wrong w/out a doubt

I haven't read the second part, but I do see a minor flaw in the first bit. His calculation of the dropping ball is done off of the top floor, rather than the height of the mass point he compares it with.


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Date: 2006-02-22 06:59:07 Topic: WTC pancake theory proved wrong w/out a doubt

It seems 9/11 remains a focal point and with good reason. For anyone who needs absolute proof, we will never convince them. Nor do we need to.

Why would I need to prove anything to anyone? I can just show where the official story does not hold true. Once you accept the official story is false, you move forward.

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Date: 2006-02-22 11:37:48 Topic: WTC pancake theory proved wrong w/out a doubt

That pancake theory is very hard to ignore... Why isn't this in the news?

because its not important and over simplifies the situation.


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Date: 2006-02-23 20:26:48 Topic: WTC pancake theory proved wrong w/out a doubt

I dont know if any of you have been to ground zero,but there is one flaw in the "controled blast" theory.The bottom 7 floors of the wtc towers are below the hudson river,the foundation actually holds back the river.
So, for this theory to work the charge would have to be in the "basement". Now if enough explosives were planted to bring down just 1 tower,the foundation walls would have been wiped out, or at least heavily damaged,unlesss the explosives were placed farthest away from the water side of the building,which would make it tip.
As for the debris traveling 360' across vasser st.you do realise that vasser st. is one way(about 30' across)and im sure that there was enough displaced energy to achieve that.just seeing the destruction in the days following to the surrounding buildings, I mean the media concentrates on the towers, but every building surrounding g.z. was just fuckin destroyed.The way the guy writing the article makes it seem like the towers fell,and everything surrounding them is open for business,and the buildings are spread out.Believe me when I tell you,shit down ther is CRAMPED.


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Date: 2006-02-24 19:39:04 Topic: WTC pancake theory proved wrong w/out a doubt

I know this leads off from the making of "pancake", but all this structural talk blah blah....Why has not any one thought about
designing an "Action Sports Co-Op Housing", just like they do for Artists. There should have subsidized housing for Sk8ers, Freeriders,
BMXers, and for anyone one working for the development of these sports. That would be awesome. Riders have hard time making ends or
access for stable stationed environment that is conducive to the growth of these sports their own development. The industry is always up and
down. Something like this should be pitched to gov't housing or "They" too should be considered Artists and be allowed to apply for Artist
Co-op.

Anyway moving on......N


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