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hijito Joined: A long time ago... Posts: 294 Location: Czech Republic	Date: 2006-01-23 12:31:40 Topic: punk/hc opinion
	i just read some replies on our dyi web, there was quite a sparking argument between promoter of "The Donots" concert and other dyi musician, as he was opposing him how come a band like this which is sponsored by a major label like Sony/BMG can be connected with their web (www.czechcore.cz) by putting logos on posters... well the discussion was quite a long and i found quite a nice explanation of what the person thinks of the true meaning of punk/hc music generally.. i think it's said quite well and i thought i could share it with ya... it's a translation> Maybe it might sound pathetic but you might understand me. And reject it just by saying it's how things develop and things like DIY had a sense 30 years ago and today it doesn't matter... well i just can't accept it and i don't know how to accept it. Creating your own scene, whose essence isn't money-making (apart from the large number of bands you promote) but culture which is made by people for having their own grounds to express themselves without needing major labels, agencies, sponsors... i think that's what really punk is about. And only punk like this can be taken seriously nevermind how untolerant this may sound. Disclaimer: This is a personal opinion! I know i get posts like "Well you're not saying anything new" and such... but think, how many bands that follow these ideals do you know/listen (local bands included)? Just express your opinions. http://www.bmxboard.wz.cz/templates/subSilver/images/logo_phpBB.gif
p Joined: A long time ago... Posts: 851 Location:	Date: 2006-01-23 17:17:22 Topic: punk/hc opinion
p Joined: A long time ago... Posts: 851 Location:	it's very true. "punk" isn't a music genre, it's a lifestyle. however, this doesn't mean that a "punk" band can't be on a major label. if the band still believes in and lives their lives by whatever it is they define "punk" as, then the fact that their music has found a way to reach a greater audience should only be applauded, not condemned. you only have to look at 'choking victim/leftover crack/INDK/morning glory' to see that a "punk" band CAN get major distribution and still stay true to their beliefs and ideals. p "bite the bullet or swallow it whole" - mudvayne
hijito Joined: A long time ago... Posts: 294 Location: Czech Republic	Date: 2006-01-23 23:53:57 Topic: punk/hc opinion
	well i'm not denying that punk band can't be on major... i mean that it has some consequences, that aren't much obvious when you're on major only by signing on major label you directly support the "big" industry... and i think you know where this discussion might lead from now on... :) even i buy/listen to stuff that are on major labels, i realize what i do, all i wanted was to share the guy's opinion cause i think it was well-said http://www.bmxboard.wz.cz/templates/subSilver/images/logo_phpBB.gif
infamous3140 Joined: A long time ago... Posts: 3110 Location: Cleveland OH area	Date: 2006-01-24 05:04:07 Topic: punk/hc opinion
	I wouldn't necessarily say a band is supporting major corporations if they sign with a big label. Signing with a big label doesn't equal selling out. The way I see it, the band and the corporation get something out of it. Company hopes to make money, band gets paid and spreads their music more widely than they could on their own. Frequent punishments are always a sign of weakness or laziness on the part of a government. -Jean Jacques Rousseau
-mcwelfarechekk Joined: A long time ago... Posts: 216 Location:	Date: 2006-01-24 12:19:00 Topic: punk/hc opinion
	music is gay/
reyesjr02 Joined: A long time ago... Posts: 298 Location:	Date: 2006-01-25 17:42:59 Topic: punk/hc opinion
reyesjr02 Joined: A long time ago... Posts: 298 Location:	I agree. Punk sucks. If anyone even joins a band, they're a sellout because they're just trying to get fame and spread a message. bands = sellouts
DuncanPark Joined: A long time ago... Posts: 2800 Location: Austin, TX	Date: 2006-01-25 19:06:55 Topic: punk/hc opinion
	it's very true. "punk" isn't a music genre, it's a lifestyle. you only have to look at 'choking victim/leftover crack/INDK/morning glory' to see that a "punk" band CAN get major distribution and still stay true to their beliefs and ideals. p Hellz Yeah. P thats my favorite post on this forum ever.. I think i love you Wanna make out? :oops: :wink:
p Joined: A long time ago... Posts: 851 Location:	Date: 2006-01-26 14:08:10 Topic: punk/hc opinion
p Joined: A long time ago... Posts: 851 Location:	EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEWWWWWWWW..... ...okay. 8) p "bite the bullet or swallow it whole" - mudvayne
GeorgeFinkleWinkle Joined: A long time ago... Posts: 3669 Location: Bernardsville, NJ	Date: 2006-01-26 16:35:44 Topic: punk/hc opinion
	I agree. Punk sucks. If anyone even joins a band, they're a sellout because they're just trying to get fame and spread a message. bands = sellouts ...Or, people play music for the fun of it. Not everyone thinks just about making lots of dough and being on the cover of rolling stone. Now punk is a genre I perfer to listen to, but still people in punk bands, or any band for that matter, 95 percent of the time are in it for the love of music. Would you turn down a record deal or a gig at a major venue? I think not. If you can make a living doing something you love "i.e. playing music", then why not? I'm in a band (experimental folk jam band) currently and I'd love to one day be "famous" and expose our music to millions of loving fans, there isn't a feeling like it. Sigh. In a hot air balloon Corrinado flies over the sea for Leora today And in one day He went from his cell to the sky At his last chance to fly
*dJ Joined: A long time ago... Posts: 220 Location: the internet	Date: 2006-01-26 17:54:00 Topic: punk/hc opinion
	Yeah... I am in a band, and we have no intentions on ever "going big". We play at local venues, and jam around, but I don't think any of us are in it because we plan to make it big. But I don't know, maybe you don't see music the way most people do. Oh well. Just keep ridin' haha. My bike sucks... But it's all I got!
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