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Re: The New Simple posted on 2006-06-12 08:41:07

Frame looks nice. I don't trust welded on support plates on the back end, though. Seems like that would be a major break point for the frame. Why not go with tubes? Much stronger. The drops look really nice though, and that gray color looks great. It's too bad that this frame is too short for me, I set my back wheel at 13.5 always.

Less than 4 pounds sounds great, I'd love to be able to have a frame that weight. BUT, I'd want it to last at least a year and not flex like a garden hose, either. But people have been saying "okay now frames are going to be too weak b/c of light weight" since the Quamen G2, and so far we've been mostly wrong, so I'm willing to see what happens with this one. Remember how everyone was freaking out when Quamen had the swiss cheese dropouts? At least it doesn't look like the Eastern Grim Reaper...

Re: NJcancelled posted on 2006-06-12 07:55:53

Why was it cancelled?

Re: kevin jones big daddy frame geometry posted on 2006-06-10 08:14:01

Since Brett and Kevin designed it, they might be better to answer this one, but I know that the HT is 75, the TT is 19, the back end is VERY long by today's standards. I think it's like 13.75 slammed or something, maybe more. I believe the seat tube is 70. I don't know what the bb height is.

The length of the backend never seemed like that big of a deal, keep in mind that Kevin and Chase were doing things on these bikes 13 years ago that even most good riders can't do today. Stuff like a blender might be a bit harder though. I don't know, I don't do blenders.

Great frame, very "balanced", so much that the extra weight doesn't seem like that big of a deal.
Works just as well on ramps as it does on flatland. Great, great bike, an all time classic. Last time I saw him, Kevin was still riding one.

Re: FBM Equilibrium and Quamen Bowls for sale posted on 2006-06-09 21:01:50

Its 19131. Philadelphia.

Yeah, I meant $100 US.

Let me know man.

Re: Weighed my ride today posted on 2006-06-09 19:59:53

OK, I folded after reading this and had to weigh my bikes today. Here is the breakdown

My flatland and main bike came in at 32 ('02 Pony, Ody fork, Profile Ti cranks, Skim Milks)

My street/ramps bike came in at 33.5 ('05 Heaton, old (heavy) Ody flat fork, old (heavy) Primo cranks, heavy as hell Dragonfly bars)

Race/dirt bike at 27.5 (Hoffman Flash)

What? That's way heavier than I expected for all of them. I do run 4 pegs on all my bikes except for the race bike, but I would've thought for all of the stuff I've done to the flat bike, it would be sub-30. Pony and Heaton weigh about the same though, 6 and some change....

The scale I used isn't super accurate though. This could probably be off by a pound or so.

I might try it again and see what I get, now this is driving me crazy.

Re: FBM Equilibrium and Quamen Bowls for sale posted on 2006-06-09 12:34:30

Ill start things off:

$100 + shipping for the FBM

Re: How old are you? posted on 2006-06-09 08:43:16

29

31 inch waist

Re: chad j? intrikat? posted on 2006-06-02 11:47:14

My favorite moments from Chad J. vids:

1.) Simon's part in Landescape A
2.) Vicki's part in LA A
3.) Me doing a double perverted in a cut sequence in Linkt, and in the opening sequence of Linkt
4.) Kent Pearson pulling a triple decade at the end of Infinite Pieces on a bet, and Jody Temple yelling to Chad:
"Took your money, bitch!"

Ahhh good times.

This reminds me that its been too long since I've seen some of my flatland friends.

Re: flatland symbol posted on 2006-06-02 11:39:33

Matt Hulgan is gonna be stoked when he sees this thread....

Re: Kicked out posted on 2006-05-31 08:12:49

When I lived in Atlanta, I got kicked out of nearly EVERY spot I rode in, with the exception of the tennis courts at my apartment complex (almost always being used for tennis, though) and the Ga. Tech parking garage. Jfos and Bill King got the boot and were very nearly arrested there, although I rode there for many years with no problems at all.

Parking lots, tennis courts, garages.....there was hardly a piece of land in that town that didn't have a security guard to go with it. Foster and I were booted from a great tennis court that we already had PERMISSION to ride on by a self appointed citizen's arrest type (an off duty cop who lived in the complex) who saw us using the empty court while walking her dogs.

I think as I get older it seems to get worse. When I was in a teenager, people tended to leave me alone. I never got kicked out of anywhere riding flatland in Savannah. It was the early 90's and no one understood or knew about what I was doing anyway. When I lived in Athens, I don't think I ever got the boot from anywhere (except a underground garage that was next to a bank with a full time security guard). The people there just didn't seem to care, I guess I just looked like a weird college student doing weird things. In 1998 I moved to Atlanta - WHOLE different story. It seemed like every place I found was either totally in the ghetto and therefore sketchy and dangerous to white suburban boys riding alone at night on $1500 bikes (as was much of Atlanta at that time), or secured 24/7 by rent a cops with nothing better to do than harass me for rolling around on their precious concrete.

Philadelphia cops have their hands full, so unless you're actually shooting AT someone, they generally leave you alone. (except for riding LOVE park and surrounding areas of course, but that's a different story) I ride at a school tennis court and no one has hasseled me. Yet.

I think that guards just have a hard time believing that an adult would spent their time doing something like flatland. Its like they can't believe that I just might be getting exercise and fresh air. I've been kicked out of lots with NO cars in them and empty parking garages on a Sunday. I'm riding flatland so I'm not destoying anything like riding street does.
I think that they think that riders are using that as a front to break into cars, or graffiti walls, or something like that.

Sometimes I wonder if I was there just jogging in circles around the parking lot they'd have a problem with it, or would let me continue, because that is a more "normal" activity.

More than anything, it points to several huge trends in American culture today:

1.) fear of and embrace of (depending on what side you're on) a totally litigous culture. Americans absolutely cannot wait to either sue or try to keep someone from suing them.

2.) obsession with security - cameras, guards, etc. Proliferation of cameras have made areas that would've once been relatively unmonitored able to be observed all the time. This might help in some cases but it really hurts somebody just trying to ride their damn bike. Personally I think it points to the willingness of most Americans to continue to surrender their privacy and their freedom for the illusion of security.

3.) the lack of ability of the average obese, sedentary American to understand why a mentally sound person would be outside rolling around on a bike - outside of mainstream society's norms. Their attitudes about all this? Want to get exercise? Get a healthclub membership. Want excitement? Play a videogame or go to a movie. Want fresh air? Sit in front of the air conditioner. To them, the only reason why a person should ever go outside of their homes is either to 1.) earn money or
2.) spend money, and anyone doing anything else has something wrong with them.

Sad situation. Why can't people just leave us alone?

Re: Hot weather=exhaustion posted on 2006-05-31 06:29:01

I grew up in Savannah, GA. I know something about riding in heat and humidity. When its really, really, really hot, the main trick is: Wait until nighttime or ride early in the morning. Even on days when it would get to 105 with 95% humidity, if I got out riding for an hour or two from 6:30-8:30 or so, it would be a lot cooler, like down in the 70's. Riding at night helps a little, but it won't be nearly as cool as in the morning (unless you live in the desert) If you insist on riding in the daytime, don't ride during the peak heat hours 2-4, drink lots of water, try to stay in the shade, and realize that you're probably going to have to keep it shorter than you would if it was 70 degrees out. Summertime was really kind of the bike riding off season in Savannah. It was just too hot usually.

Re: chad j? intrikat? posted on 2006-05-30 10:50:08

I'd like to see this, too. Some of my favorites.

Re: Setting York Jam date posted on 2006-05-30 10:48:40

Good back or bad back, I'm going for 30" bunnyhop this year. I want to get into the 30/30 club. Last year I topped out at around 25.5", I can make 4.5 more.... I guess I'd better start lightening my bike...

Brett, want to build a bunnyhop bar to practice on?

Re: Elephant Glide Combo's posted on 2006-05-30 07:49:06

one of my favorites is an old Chad D/Chase route - elephant glide to drop the seat, let the frame swing around behind you, jump up and switch feet (so now opposite footed), grab seat with original hand holding the seat as it swings around the the opposite side, so you end up in a cross footed, cross handed elephant glide.

I've never done it without brakes but I'm sure its possible.

Re: dave Mcdaniel posted on 2006-05-30 07:24:52

I know he used to live in AZ, and Philly before that, and Atlanta before that, but I haven't talked to him in a while, so I don't know where he is these days. Good rider and cool cat, he pretty much set the bar for the rest of the ATL flatlanders when he was living there. Jfos, Rodney, David, me, Hulgan, Shayne, Roman, Bill King...2001 was a good year for the scene in Atlanta.

Re: People who spin to their lefts posted on 2006-05-26 06:49:48

I think there are just as many right carvers as left carvers in BMX. What about Hoffman, Bestwick (he spins both right and left but I think he learned right first), DMC, Kevin Robinson.....

These days to be a really great vert rider you have to be able to carve both ways anyway.

I carve to the left.

Re: bmx in georgia posted on 2006-05-26 06:33:46

If you are in Winder, see if you can get over to Athens. There are lots of good places to ride there, including a sick concrete park.
Of course Atlanta has lots and lots and lots of great riding, too.

Re: Flatlander's Careers.. posted on 2006-05-19 09:59:11

I make and sell soap.

Ergonomics in part design? posted on 2006-05-16 12:38:50

Reading p's post about injuries got me thinking about this. It seems that almost every rider will at some point or another deal with back problems because of riding. Part of that is most likely inescapable, seeing what we do and how we do it.

But....

Is there anything we can do in terms of part design to make overuse injuries (wrist problems, back injuries, etc...) less of a problem? I know that in road biking, bike fit is VERY important. Getting a bike with proper standover height, bar width etc. makes a very big difference in terms of how long a rider can be comfortable riding and in preventing injuries. In BMX, and flatland in particular, there doesn't seem to be much in terms of guidelines for a proper bike "fit" or emphasis on making parts that fit particular sizes of people - we just have to pretty much guess and hope what we buy works for us.

I know for a fact that many of the riders who rode hard during the 90's have developed back problems. I really think the 35+ pound bikes we rode back then are partly responsible. Are 6' + riders riding 6" tall bars designed by and for much shorter Japanese men contributing to back problems in taller riders? It seems strange to me that someone who is about 5' 11" should be riding the same basic bike setup as someone who is 5' 5" or 5'6". You see it all the time in BMX, though.

Fit in flatland is mainly a preference thing. Most people fit a bike by trying a few tricks on it, and if they like it, they keep it. If not they sell it or trade it to their friend. Maybe we should spend more time thinking about what might be best in terms of fit for rideability now and in the future. Maybe Trevor Meyer was on to something with that giant bike of his. Thoughts?

Re: i'm done. quit. finished. posted on 2006-05-15 13:51:38

if it makes you feel any better, p, anyone who is getting close to our age is dealing with this. I've injured and reinjured my back repeatedly over the past year or so, keeping me off my bike for the better part of 5 months now, and I never really did find out what caused the wrist/nerve injury that kept me off the bike for 4 months back in 2002. Worst part is, those injuries weren't caused by some kind of acute trauma, like landing on my head from a flair or something. They were from regular, everyday riding I've been doing since I was about 12 or so. I'll be 30 this fall, and I'm realizing that I don't bounce back as quickly as I used to. Only you can make the decision to quit if you think its time. I'm trying to ease my way back into riding again, I'm doing phys therapy and trying to increase my overall level of fitness so I can keep riding. But I know what you mean when you say that if all that's going to happen when you go riding is that you hurt yourself, you're not interested anymore. Good luck and don't give up...leave the sport on your terms if that's what you want.

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