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Re: Justification for pricing? Have they really gone too far?! posted on 2007-02-16 00:37:01

Its cool man, I love Ed and his company as well. If Function didnt exist, I'd probobly be riding a Sick Child right now. I guess to explain the cost of the Function frame a little better.....I should begin by saying nothing made in America by an American (white dude) in small quantities is cheap. If this frame were made in Taiwan, in batches of hundreds, it would cost the same price as the Suelo frames that are on sale for almost 100 bucks. But those frames are pieces of shit compared to Functions. Its like going into a candy store and buying either a 5 cent piece of gum, or a 5 dollar swiss chocolate bar. Nahmean? Also, think about S&M, S&M sells street frames (no bendy tubes, cheaper production costs) for $350 or so, and they produce tons of them as well as other companies frames. If you want prices to be justified that are outrageous, ask why S&M's cost so damn much. Also, a lot of people are afraid to steer away from the trends because of money situations. If you make trendy things that means you're in it for the money. Function isnt about putting cash in their pocket like that. Function follows their dreams, caters to a small crowd, and is not afraid to stray from what "flatland" has become.

 

Re: Justification for pricing? Have they really gone too far?! posted on 2007-02-15 10:45:17

The answer is YES! Its more than strong enough for street, that is what the mid bb, thick dropouts, and butted tubing is for! Also, there are no wishbones! While I was testing the prototype I actually beat the shit out of it (ran it into a few walls amongst many other things) and I still have that frame after I started riding it a little under a year ago. This new production version of the Function frame is a big improvement in strength, looks, weight, and geometry compared to the prototypes.

 

Re: Justification for pricing? Have they really gone too far?! posted on 2007-02-14 23:13:12

Here are two pics of my new frame built up by the way, which I also payed for.

 

Re: Justification for pricing? Have they really gone too far?! posted on 2007-02-14 23:02:13

I take some major offense to this opinion of yours that the Function flatland frame is too expensive, and the cost is not justified by the means. The guys over at function arent just friends of mine, but they believe in getting things done and doing them the right way. They also happen to make the strongest flatland frame ever, each of which are welded by the same person one by one, and are each inspected by Drill Sgt. Paul once they have been completed! Let me ask you, is it worth $90 for pre-mis-welded KGB bars? FUCK NO! I have been lucky enough to have been riding a prototype function frame since they had their first prototype made. AND they were nice enough to send it to me for FREE! It has been the single most enjoyable frame for me to ride yet. I've ridden them all, and have not been as happy on any other frame as I have been on the Function frame. Everytime I go out and ride, I have a smile on my face because I know the effort and love that went into producing these machines! That being said, its hard to find a no frills frame that will last a lifetime, uses a mid bottom bracket shell, has a rear end longer than my 12 inch ruler, has 14mm dropouts that will work with the new Bamboo freecoaster from Nankai, and uses the great internal headset system. All that, and the frame is around 5.5lbs! This frame will be around even when my grandkids are my age, thats how bombproof these things are! Go ahead and say that I am only saying this because the guys who designed the frame are my friends. I wouldnt ride a piece of shit, nor would I be typing all of this if the frame itself didnt justify the cost of purchasing it. How many other rider owned companies shell out large amounts of cash to produce a small limited amount of frames just because they saw a niche market that they could cater to, not to make money, but for the love of riding! So rethink what you've already stated. You want a fucking frame that doesnt justify its costs? Howabout London frames? 600 dollars for one! Have you even been around long enough to remember the last time Flatlandfuel sold London frames on their website? P.S.- This website really stinks now, and I dont know how to make my paragraphs stay separated from eachother even though I typed them separately from eachother.

 

Flatland frames for sale posted on 2007-02-14 16:27:46

1. OG Quamen frame. I am the origional owner. Brake mounts/gyro tabs have been cut off a long time ago. Frame is custom painted with a special paint that is chameleon like and changes depending on the angle you look at it, and how light reflects off of it. It goes from purple to gold! Dropouts are 3/8, top tube is 18.75, rear end can be run at 13.5 or 13.75. American bottom bracket. 1 1/8 headtube size. $80 plus shipping takes it. [IMG]http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j182/joedammitnyc/p1010001.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j182/joedammitnyc/P1010008.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j182/joedammitnyc/P1010017.jpg[/IMG] 2. WTP Sinus frame. I believe it to be a prototype because no production models came in this color that had welded on gyro tabs and the rear end length is longer than what is stated on WTP's website. The top tube is 19.25, rear end can be run 13.5, spanish bottom bracket, 1 1/8 headtube, gyro tabs, brake mounts, uses an internal headset. I will include a Spanish BB for Odyssey sized crank spindles. Frame is in very good condition, and has not been ridden much at all. $170 plus shipping. [IMG]http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j182/joedammitnyc/IMG_0882.jpg[/IMG] I will not accept trades of any kind.