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Date: 2006-08-09 08:19:25 Topic: Re: Metal/Deathmetal/Hardcore/Screamo/grindcore ect...
okay just to say a few things
mars volta is a very good band. though i don't understand why they opened for system of all bands. tehre both good but don't go well together.

dying fetus is horrible haha
and here are more bands

Death Follows Daybreak
Catherine
CONDEMNED
cholera
Catalepsy
dr acula
Drown retarded children
flesh and blood robot
elysia
gutted with broken glas
HOLDEN CAULFIELD
INFECTED MALIGNITY

those are just a few from my list i have a bunch more deathmetal if you  guys want just ask

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Date: 2006-08-09 09:27:45 Topic: Re: Metal/Deathmetal/Hardcore/Screamo/grindcore ect...
keep building up that myspace band list smay

itll be worth something one day

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Date: 2006-08-09 12:43:10 Topic: Re: Metal/Deathmetal/Hardcore/Screamo/grindcore ect...

i was reading through the older posts and i just so happen to find this, (reply #41)
"and its so much more hardcore than there last ones
it sounds like Everytime i die"-smay
u need a wake-up call buddy, everytime i die is absolutely [glow=red,2,300]NOT[/glow]hardcore in anyway
hardcore music is about respct friendship poverty war hardship loyalty family work struggles pride and booze not how their boyfriend dumped them so now the have to go slit their rists and wear fucking tight-as-hell blackk


sounds more  like punk to me  :|
does a band have to fallow a certain story line in there songs to maintain there status in a genre?
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Date: 2006-08-09 15:08:44 Topic: Re: Metal/Deathmetal/Hardcore/Screamo/grindcore ect...
what sounds like punk?
and what the music is about is what classifies it...
nobody's gonna make a pop song about eating dead dicks, only gothic metal/deathmetal/blackmetal bands would sing(scream)something like that
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Date: 2006-08-09 16:58:04 Topic: Re: Metal/Deathmetal/Hardcore/Screamo/grindcore ect...

what sounds like punk?
and what the music is about is what classifies it...
nobody's gonna make a pop song about eating dead dicks, only gothic metal/deathmetal/blackmetal bands would sing(scream)something like that


by dicks did you mean chicks?

anyway, assuming you meant chicks, if a pop group DID make your average pop song, exept there lyrics were that  of eating dead chicks, it would be classified as  "gothic metal/deathmetal/blackmetal", and not pop?
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Date: 2006-08-09 17:09:08 Topic: Re: Metal/Deathmetal/Hardcore/Screamo/grindcore ect...
i used the word dicks to make fun of that type of music
no i think most people would classify it as a comedy making fun of both the gothic deathmetal genre as well as teh pop genre.
but back to what i originally said, about what hardcore is about, hardcore is defined by what the lyrics are, that is what hardcore music is. It was originated by the band agnostic front, who are from a poorer area of nyc, and that is what they sang about and that is what every real hardcore band is based on. Some genres such as pop and rock can be about a million things, yet gothic metal doesn't have a lot of options as far as lyrical content goes
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Date: 2006-08-09 23:17:33 Topic: Re: Metal/Deathmetal/Hardcore/Screamo/grindcore ect...

i used the word dicks to make fun of that type of music
no i think most people would classify it as a comedy making fun of both the gothic deathmetal genre as well as teh pop genre.
but back to what i originally said, about what hardcore is about, hardcore is defined by what the lyrics are, that is what hardcore music is. It was originated by the band agnostic front, who are from a poorer area of nyc, and that is what they sang about and that is what every real hardcore band is based on. Some genres such as pop and rock can be about a million things, yet gothic metal doesn't have a lot of options as far as lyrical content goes


SO, by your deffanition, any song can be hardcore as long as the LYRICS read about "friendship, poverty, war, hardship, loyalty, family, work struggles, pride, and booze"? the MUSIC  is nothing but background noise?

and if rock music can be about anything, cant it be about "friendship, poverty, war, hardship, loyalty, family, work struggles, pride, and booze"? i guess not, becuase that would make it hardcore right?

isnt punk based on the same type of characteristics for witch youve based harcore?
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Date: 2006-08-10 09:25:59 Topic: Re: Metal/Deathmetal/Hardcore/Screamo/grindcore ect...
yes hardcore is a more metal version of punk, so of cours they are about much of the same stuff

ok let me put it this way, hardcore is a very specific genre, it is made up of a music style that resembles both punk and metal, AND its lyrical content is oftenrefering to "friendship, poverty, war, hardship, loyalty, family, work struggles, pride, and booze" among other things
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Date: 2006-08-10 09:46:57 Topic: Re: Metal/Deathmetal/Hardcore/Screamo/grindcore ect...
Hardcore music isn't completely defined by subject matter.  Its really hard to classify anything anyone makes anymore because it is all so diverse and under multiple genres.  Bands change as well, what they once sang and what they now sing, what do we classify a band as.  What if they were Hardcore for 8 years and more of an Punk/Emo for the last 2.  What is the band than?  If I had to classify music I would break it down simpler than the whole shitload of groups that currently exist.

Emo:  Defined mainly by singing style and subject matter.  Tends to have more traditional to pop stylized rock riffs in the background.  The lead singer uses a Pop, top of the lungs singing style, people say it sounds like whiny, but its just the way people sing, kind of like if Maria Carey leaded for Fall Out Boy, still the same genre of music.  Subject matter tends to be about killing them selves, killing a girl friend, loss of a friend, or anything dark and depressing that has to do with Adolecent and Pubecent themes.  Again, an example would be Fall Out Boy, New Blink 182, new Sum41, etc...

Screamo - EmoCore(as I like to call it):  Same singing mixed with the traditional Hardcore scream style of music.  The rock riffs also begin to follow a more spaced Hardcore/Metal sound.  Subject matter is still the same.  Bands:  Bullet for my Valentine, whatever else, except for BFMV I don't listen or get exposed unwillingly to Screamo

East Coast Hardcore:  I know some of you are like WTF mate...  To the east coast hardcore.  East coast Hardcore is like a screamo punk combination.  Tends to deal with political, social, economic, subjects mainly.  The muscal side is very much punk, but with deeper riffs, sounds alot like traditional Hardcore in the same sense.  Bands: Boy Sets Fire, From Autumn to Ashes, etc...

Hardcore:  Hard core tends to deal with lots of teenage and 20 something social issues, with a budding sense of political involvement, but nothing too complex.  Singing is pure deep screaming, although depending on the lead singer, it varies, ie: Dimebag Darrell.  Riffs are hard and heavy, tending to be spatial, instead of smooth transitions between notes.  Bands: Hatebreed, Walls of Jericho, etc...

I leave it at those 4 major players, since that is really the area this thread is about.  

This is how I break down this kind of music, not an official guideline, unless you like the simplicity of it.

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Date: 2006-08-10 09:58:42 Topic: Re: Metal/Deathmetal/Hardcore/Screamo/grindcore ect...
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