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Date: 2006-01-18 16:33:25 Direct Link: Pentagon to millitary families: &quot;Learn to laugh&quot;

Yup those are the realistic outcomes.. What i think will happen is an americanized government that is really close to the US. That would be the more productive of the two at this point, given the circumstances.

nope i didn't give two shits about iraq before we started. did you?

and you are free to do none of those. It being a wrongful death is your opinion you are free to have it. But legally its not wrongful thats why its not offered. Joining the army basically means you are willing to die for your country. Sounds kinda selfish that you should get a bunch of stuff for someone else dieing now doesn't it?

Vietnam... an Americanized government that is really close to the US? Cuba... an Americanized government that is really close to the US? The Balkans... an Americanized government that is really close to the US? Those countries don't even have tribal warlords who are constantly fighting (when not under the rule of a dictator like former US ally Saddam Husein).

No, I didn't give a shit about Iraq then, and I don't now. It can be the third world hell hole that it's bound to be. You didn't care about the WMD and terrorist connection and war crimes and human rights violations then, but you do now?

Those deaths are wrongfull. There was no justification for going to war then, and there isn't now, nor will there be in the future (see: Syria, Iran). The millitary is for defensive purposes only. Iraq never attacked us.


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Date: 2006-01-18 16:41:17 Direct Link: Pentagon to millitary families: &quot;Learn to laugh&quot;

I said not legally wrongfull, and they are not. No laws have be proven proken, although thats what Al gore is going for now, who knows it may spark something in findihng a broken law. Opinion that the death is wrongful and legal fact that they arn't dont mesh, but again the legal is a wide spread fact whereas opinion is just one man's view.
im not sure what you were going for with your fist comment, but whatever this has basically gone like %1000 off topic.


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Date: 2006-01-18 17:36:41 Direct Link: Pentagon to millitary families: &quot;Learn to laugh&quot;

I said not legally wrongfull, and they are not. No laws have be proven proken, although thats what Al gore is going for now, who knows it may spark something in findihng a broken law. Opinion that the death is wrongful and legal fact that they arn't dont mesh, but again the legal is a wide spread fact whereas opinion is just one man's view.
im not sure what you were going for with your fist comment, but whatever this has basically gone like %1000 off topic.


US hawk admits Iraq war 'illegal'
By Shaheen Chughtai

A Pentagon official widely regarded as the key ideological driving force behind President George Bush's foreign policy has admitted the US-led invasion of Iraq is illegal.


Richard Perle, a senior adviser to the US defence secretary, said the US had broken international law, blaming French reluctance to attack Iraq for leaving Washington with "no practical mechanism consistent with the rules of the UN for dealing with Saddam Hussein".

"I think in this case international law stood in the way of doing the right thing," said Perle in London in comments published by the British media on Thursday. "International law ... would have required us to leave Saddam Hussein alone."

Perle was speaking at an event organised by the Institute of Contemporary Arts in London on Wednesday.

The influential Pentagon official’s comments represent a clear break with official White House statements. President George Bush, presently on a state visit to the UK, has always insisted the war was legal either because of existing UN security council resolutions on Iraq or as an act of self-defence.

Bush’s main ally in the invasion of Iraq, UK Prime Minister Tony Blair, has always said existing UN resolutions legitimised the attack on Iraq.

Critics astonished

"It’s an incredible admission that Bush and Blair’s war in Iraq is illegal," said Andrew Burgin, spokesman of the Stop the War Coalition in London. "It underlines everything we’ve said about the so-called war on terror being an illegal campaign."

Burgin said the recent bomb attacks in Istanbul showed the illegality of the Bush-Blair campaign was "fuelling the level of terror around the world".

A British lawyer and leftist politician who has frequently criticised Washington's foreign policy, Louise Christian, said she was "greatly concerned" by Perle's admission and its implicit disregard for international law.

Prince of Darkness

Dubbed the Prince of Darkness by his critics - and a few awed admirers - because of his powerful behind-the-scenes influence, Perle is a senior member of the Pentagon’s defence policy board, which advises the US Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld.

He resigned from the board's chairmanship amid controversy in March, however, after allegations of commercial conflict of interest.

Perle is also a key member of the Project for the New American Century, a rightwing think tank closely linked to the White House and credited with inspiring much of the Bush administration’s foreign policy.

He has been a hawkish advocate of projecting US power both diplomatically and militarily without the restraint of international bodies such as the UN.


It's still very much on topic; telling people to laugh at the death of a family member is fucking disgusting.


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Date: 2006-01-18 18:03:34 Direct Link: Pentagon to millitary families: &quot;Learn to laugh&quot;

they arn't laughing at the death of a family. they laughing at seinfeld or something funny. They are laughing at a time hwere family member may have died, but not at it. People are supposed to be pissed off all the time?

i like this article by the same author: http://www.countercurrents.org/iraq-chughatai160904.htm

:lol:


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